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pdisme
05-15-2008, 06:13 PM
Beyond the ridiculous fact that Harvard is sitting on a $34 billion endowment that they pay no tax on, they had a 23% rate of return on their money last year!!! Incredible.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/05/14/beck.collegeendowment/index.html

There is an industry in this country that is making billions in profit while average Americans are struggling to fill up their gas tanks.

It's an industry that made an average profit of nearly 17 percent in 2007 while most Americans could barely keep up with inflation.

It's an industry whose members paid a grand total of zero dollars in tax on their endowments last year.

Are you outraged? Are you ready to call on Congress to investigate or demand that a "windfall" tax be placed on these egregious profits?

Well put down the phone because the industry I'm talking about is Higher Education. And make no mistake, it is an industry.

The top five college and university endowments reported a combined value of over $100 billion at the end of 2007. That's five funds, a hundred billion in cash. Not a nickel in tax. Not an ounce of outrage.

Harvard University, which has the largest endowment in the country, has a total of $34.6 billion. To put into perspective just how much money that is, consider that the largest charitable foundation in the world, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, has a total endowment of $37.3 billion.

But while their financial statements may look similar, their missions aren't. The Gates Foundation is working to cure malaria, develop new tuberculosis vaccines, and stop the spread of AIDS. Most of our colleges and universities are only working to spread the radical political views of some of their professors.

Let me be clear: I have absolutely no problem with Harvard or any other school having billions in cash. In fact, good for them!

I have no problem with Harvard posting an unbelievable 23 percent rate of return on their money last year. The truth is, I'm jealous of it.

I have no problem with the fact that if you project Harvard's endowment out using their historical rate of return they would have over half a TRILLION dollars in 20 years.

I don't even have a problem with Harvard not paying one dime of tax on any of that money.

What I do have a problem with -- and it's a big one -- is how Harvard spends that money. Or, maybe it would be more accurate to say how Harvard, doesn't spend that money.

Schools with large endowments (at least $500 million) reported spending an average of 4.4 percent of their stockpiles in 2007. Meanwhile, those same schools made an average of over 19 percent on their money.

But I also have another problem, and that is how these sanctimonious institutions who are so good at complaining about the injustices of our government are nothing but really highly educated hypocrites.

For what's been estimated to be about $300 million a year (less than 1 percent of their endowment's value) Harvard could completely waive tuition, room and board for every single one of their students. Instead, they announced an increase in those fees of about 3.5 percent for next year. Being a student at Harvard will now cost a staggering $47,215 a year.

Doesn't Harvard know how many millions of Americans are struggling to afford college? Don't they want to pay their fair share and help those who are less fortunate?

Some politicians in Massachusetts who can't stand to see so many billions dangling just out of their reach, have proposed a new tax on large university endowments. They don't have a cute name for it yet, so let's call it an "endowment windfall tax."

Under their proposal, all endowments over a billion dollars would be taxed at 2.5 percent, a rate any wealthy individual or corporation would salivate over. The tax would net the state over $1.4 billion a year, which is a lot of money considering that Boston currently receives about $1.8 million a year from the school.

So how did Harvard, which is basically the Exxon-Mobil of higher education (minus the accusations of price-gouging), react to that proposal? In a word, conservatively.

"You'd be taxing success here," Kevin Casey, Harvard's associate vice president for government, community and public affairs complained in a quote that will soon be framed and hung in my office. "Over time, this would put us at a real competitive disadvantage, which would drastically hurt the Commonwealth."

No Kevin, you're looking at it the wrong way. These politicians aren't trying to hurt you, they're just trying to level the playing field. Greater Shrewsbury Liberal Arts Community Technical College for Women down the road is struggling and here you are making billions. If they could just redistribute some of your profits to GSLACTCFW then everybody would be happy.

Does anyone else find it ironic that universities overflowing with liberal professors (a 2005 study revealed that 72 percent of professors view themselves that way) embrace conservative values only when it suits them?

As a conservative, I don't believe in taxing anyone just because they have a lot of money or are an easy target. That applies to individuals, businesses and universities. I believe that taxing success discourages success, and that's not what America stands for.

But I also believe in something else: consistency and accountability. And that's where most of our colleges and universities fail miserably.

Besides, Harvard, you're in the wealthiest 1 percent. Isn't it time to help those who are less fortunate?

eshaun
05-19-2008, 03:46 AM
For what's been estimated to be about $300 million a year (less than 1 percent of their endowment's value) Harvard could completely waive tuition, room and board for every single one of their students. Instead, they announced an increase in those fees of about 3.5 percent for next year. Being a student at Harvard will now cost a staggering $47,215 a year...



wouldnt that be nice...but, not gonna happen :( Guess what some of the professors' income there is like (i didnt say salary)

zzzzdoc
05-20-2008, 11:42 AM
You wanna play, you gotta pay (he says with Harvard degree on the wall).

All of the Ivy's are absurdly expensive at this point. And it isn't like going to them means you get to drive a Lamborghini. Oh..... Never mind.

They are basically going to a two class system there. If you're rich, you pay tuition. If you're poor, you get a free ride - no loans. If you're middle class, you go to Florida State.

pdisme
05-20-2008, 11:49 AM
All of the Ivy's are absurdly expensive at this point. And it isn't like going to them means you get to drive a Lamborghini. Oh..... Never mind.

They are basically going to a two class system there. If you're rich, you pay tuition. If you're poor, you get a free ride - no loans. If you're middle class, you go to Florida State.

I have a Lamborghini and I saved $250k by going to USF. :lol2: Go Bulls!

zeeshan66
05-21-2008, 11:35 AM
interesting article

Eshaun: care to share how much they make/income

feelingBULLISH
05-24-2008, 01:29 PM
interesting article

Eshaun: care to share how much they make/income

Probably $250,000+ working only 2-3 days a week.

You wanna play, you gotta pay (he says with Harvard degree on the wall).

All of the Ivy's are absurdly expensive at this point. And it isn't like going to them means you get to drive a Lamborghini. Oh..... Never mind.

They are basically going to a two class system there. If you're rich, you pay tuition. If you're poor, you get a free ride - no loans. If you're middle class, you go to Florida State.

Very valid point. The system is very biased. Mostly they end up taking kids that are living textbooks, no logic. It's the people that use their brains that end up making big money. That's why I plan to work my arse off, start my own business after college, and one day own a Lamborghini.:headbang:

.Drift
05-25-2008, 04:41 PM
Probably $250,000+ working only 2-3 days a week.



Very valid point. The system is very biased. Mostly they end up taking kids that are living textbooks, no logic. It's the people that use their brains that end up making big money. That's why I plan to work my arse off, start my own business after college, and one day own a Lamborghini.:headbang:

Same here, but with a porsche cayman s :p

pdisme
05-25-2008, 05:22 PM
Same here, but with a porsche cayman s :p

You'd rather drive a Porsche Cayman than a Lamborghini? You on the right website? :)

feelingBULLISH
05-25-2008, 05:30 PM
Same here, but with a porsche cayman s :p

Whatever floats your boat.:grinning-smiley-003 :)

.Drift
05-26-2008, 10:20 AM
You'd rather drive a Porsche Cayman than a Lamborghini? You on the right website? :)

Won't be able to afford a lambo with oil going the way it is :p

Minch00
05-26-2008, 05:00 PM
Won't be able to afford a lambo with oil going the way it is :p

That's why you buy a Civic Si to go along with it. You can pretend to go fast, then actually go fast when you can afford it :lol2:

.Drift
05-27-2008, 04:38 PM
That's why you buy a Civic Si to go along with it. You can pretend to go fast, then actually go fast when you can afford it :lol2:

lol.. omg im not a ricer

demetri
05-27-2008, 04:42 PM
I always thought a perfect license plate for a civic would be "got rice" :lol2:

If you could only afford a civic si I would say get a Porsche 944.

zzzzdoc
05-28-2008, 09:18 AM
I always thought a perfect license plate for a civic would be "got rice" :lol2:

If you could only afford a civic si I would say get a Porsche 944.
Get the 944 Turbo. More fun.

Sick as it sounds, I was giggling the whole time I was driving a rental Prius a few months ago. No matter what I did, the gas gauge never moved. With the Lambo, I hit the gas and the gauge drops.

Not sure what the Prius did 0-60. Not sure it ever got there.

pdisme
05-28-2008, 11:47 AM
I've got a new plate for the g-wagen that just showed up, I'm going to put it on later and take a pic. :)