Personal jet

[pdisme]

Mr. Vroom, what do you think about this?

http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2007/biz2/0703/gallery.bottom_line_design.biz2/7.html

http://i.a.cnn.net/money/galleries/2007/biz2/0703/gallery.bottom_line_design.biz2/images/eclipse.jpg

The $1.5 million Eclipse 500 is the first "very light jet" certified to provide air-taxi services at small regional airports. Innovations include a partially rivet-free welded aluminum fuselage. "This could revolutionize air travel," judge Ron Snyder says.

PRODUCT Eclipse 500

MANUFACTURER Eclipse Aviation

DESIGNERS Eclipse, Ideo, and BMW

BOTTOM LINE One jet sold in late 2006, with 2,500 units under deposit. Capacity is sold out until 2008.

[Minch00]

Man that's sweet......

[ADON]

There's a few companies that are supposed to come out with those micro jets. Honda is one of them.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/companies/management/2006-07-25-hondajet_x.htm

[pdisme]

Wow, that has to suck, you spend all that time and money getting into the market and then a monster like Honda says hey, guess we'll play ball too.

[pdisme]

Okay, forget the baby jet, peep this pimpdaddy jet:

http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2007/fortune/0704/gallery.pimpmyjet.fortune/index.html

http://i.a.cnn.net/money/galleries/2007/fortune/0704/gallery.pimpmyjet.fortune/images/dining_room_set.jpg

[duc749r]

that is nuts. 150 million for the interior i smell a major mark up as usual with interior designers. They always buy all the furnishings at their cost then sell back to the client at a 200%+ markup.

[Minch00]

that is nuts. 150 million for the interior i smell a major mark up as usual with interior designers. They always buy all the furnishings at their cost then sell back to the client at a 200%+ markup.

I think I found my new profession!

[duc749r]

One guy i know of bought marble for a client, his cost was around 100k then billed the client something like 250k for making a couple phone calls, lol.

[pdisme]

One guy i know of bought marble for a client, his cost was around 100k then billed the client something like 250k for making a couple phone calls, lol.

Why am I working? :banghead:

[Infamous]

They rediculously mark up stuff for jets. I was quoted 400k to redo the leather on the seats of a G2. I almost passed out. I took the seats apart and did the work at the place I do my interiors for my cars LoL. People are nuts.

[pdisme]

Guess they figure it's the price of membership into the jet club; I read on CNN the most recent president of Ford ran up $200k in jet usage for family trips, sweet. :)

[Stage3]

I was wondering who was going to be the first to use the A380 as their own personal jet. The 747... or hell the 777 just won't do when you are trying to out spend everyone.

[pdisme]

I was wondering who was going to be the first to use the A380 as their own personal jet. The 747... or hell the 777 just won't do when you are trying to out spend everyone.

Probably still doesn't cost as much to operate as Paul Allen's 400 foot yacht. :banghead:

[Shawn]

a personal jet would be sweet:beerchug:

[ChrisV10]

They rediculously mark up stuff for jets. I was quoted 400k to redo the leather on the seats of a G2. I almost passed out. I took the seats apart and did the work at the place I do my interiors for my cars LoL. People are nuts.

Do private aircraft have to have the material burn tested like commercial aircraft?

[Seb]

Why do you always refer to mr vroom, yet he never posts?

[ChrisV10]

I was wondering who was going to be the first to use the A380 as their own personal jet. The 747... or hell the 777 just won't do when you are trying to out spend everyone.

They haven't said who but someone already has the A380 on order for private use. There is already 747's converted. Boeing also makes the BBJ which is a 737 converted for corp aicraft.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/17/business/17megajets.html?ei=5088&en=7e8a848f27fbca92&ex=1318737600&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&pagewanted=all

[pdisme]

Why do you always refer to mr vroom, yet he never posts?

That was from three months ago. :confused:

[pdisme]

They haven't said who but someone already has the A380 on order for private use. There is already 747's converted. Boeing also makes the BBJ which is a 737 converted for corp aicraft.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/17/business/17megajets.html?ei=5088&en=7e8a848f27fbca92&ex=1318737600&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&pagewanted=all

I was thinking Sultan of Brunei but he'd probably want it announced it was him. :)

[ChrisV10]

I was thinking Sultan of Brunei but he'd probably want it announced it was him. :)

Most likely is --


June 26, 2007

Airbus A380 Personal Aircraft, Fit For A King
By Glenn Pew, Contributing Editor



The order has been placed, and excess will reach new heights when an Airbus A380 is delivered to a yet unidentified buyer for use as a private jet. Airbus The aircraft, offering 10,000 sq ft of cabin space is capable of carrying up to 840 fare-paying passengers. The buyer will likely shell out anywhere from $50 million to $150 million to have the aircraft customized. That follows on top of the roughly $300 million purchase price and the cost of operating the aircraft without ticket-buying passengers. "I can't tell you who it is, but he's not from Europe or the United Sates," Airbus sales director John Leahy told reporters last week at the Paris Air Show. "It will be for personal use for him and his entourage."

[Seb]

That was from three months ago. :confused:

My bad, chrisv10 revived the thread I did not notice it was so old :lol2:

[ChrisV10]

My bad, chrisv10 revived the thread I did not notice it was so old :lol2:

Sorry all the threads are new to me!

[pdisme]

Most likely is --

The aircraft, offering 10,000 sq ft of cabin space is capable of carrying up to 840 fare-paying passengers. The buyer will likely shell out anywhere from $50 million to $150 million to have the aircraft customized. That follows on top of the roughly $300 million purchase price and the cost of operating the aircraft without ticket-buying passengers.

I seriously hope there are no poor or homeless people in that country; can you imagine the shit hitting the fan here if the president spent $400 mil on a personal jet?

10,000 square feet, that's like three times my house. :lol2: :lol2:

[ChrisV10]

I seriously hope there are no poor or homeless people in that country; can you imagine the shit hitting the fan here if the president spent $400 mil on a personal jet?

10,000 square feet, that's like three times my house. :lol2: :lol2:

Buying aircraft is the cheap part then you have pilots, fuel, maintenance, insurance, hanger.

[pdisme]

Pilots don't get paid shit anymore. :) My friend got offered a job doing the 6 AM out, 6 PM back Tampa to Texas (forget the city) route for Continental Express and I think the offer was $23k/year! :eek: Make more being a senior burger flipper at Mickey D's.

Maintenance though, damn, having your own plane requires wealth.

[Mikey]

Pilots don't get paid shit anymore. :) My friend got offered a job doing the 6 AM out, 6 PM back Tampa to Texas (forget the city) route for Continental Express and I think the offer was $23k/year! :eek: Make more being a senior burger flipper at Mickey D's.

Maintenance though, damn, having your own plane requires wealth.

Ouch..

My uncle is a pilot for Air Canada and I know he makes well over 80k a year and has a very nice house and a vette. He only works like 10 days a month too, pretty sweet deal if you ask me :)

Tell your friend to move to the great North~

-Mikey

[pdisme]

I think it depends on how long you've been flying, he's having to start out at the bottom in commercial piloting and they definitely let you know it with the horrible pay and shitty routes; but all you can do is grin and bear it since you need hours to get to the higher levels. :)

[ChrisV10]

I think it depends on how long you've been flying, he's having to start out at the bottom in commercial piloting and they definitely let you know it with the horrible pay and shitty routes; but all you can do is grin and bear it since you need hours to get to the higher levels. :)

I am a commercial pilot and honestly the only reason I can afford to is because I worked to put my wife through dentistry school. Now the roles are reversed but it allows me to be a pilot.

[pdisme]

I am a commercial pilot and honestly the only reason I can afford to is because I worked to put my wife through dentistry school. Now the roles are reversed but it allows me to be a pilot.

Yeah, that's similar to what's happened to my friend, he lucked out and got with a charter company that lets him co-pilot the Lear 60 on short stuff like weekends, etc. from Tampa to the southeast or Caribbean and then he still has a regular four day job the rest of the week; he wouldn't be able to pay his mortgage on just flying if he was doing it full time but he loves it.

[ChrisV10]

Yeah, that's similar to what's happened to my friend, he lucked out and got with a charter company that lets him co-pilot the Lear 60 on short stuff like weekends, etc. from Tampa to the southeast or Caribbean and then he still has a regular four day job the rest of the week; he wouldn't be able to pay his mortgage on just flying if he was doing it full time but he loves it.

Yeah one year of my salary doesn't pay 1/4 of a year of my wifes taxes.....

[Matt]

Yeah one year of my salary doesn't pay 1/4 of a year of my wifes taxes.....

ouch... :tdown:

really hope you love what you do :lol2:

[ChrisV10]

ouch... :tdown:

really hope you love what you do :lol2:

I do!

[pdisme]

Chris, what kind of plane do you pilot?

I've got a friend who's going through the six week training on the Airbus A330 right now, he loves to fly, he's going to be doing a New York to India route as one of the two co-pilots. Can't remember what he flies currently but the A330 is much larger, he said it even holds an extra 11,000 pounds of fuel in the tail plane. Love to see the fuel bill for that. :lol2:

[DenisB]

it was for a middle eastern sheik i believe

[cantwait2]

was recently looking at the possibility of buying a Jet in the next couple of years...I'm a sniff away from my pilots licence and with a Jet it would be 100% tax deductable.

Was looking at the solo and smart

http://www.maverickjets.com/

It would be the ultimate freedom :beerchug:

[Mike S]

Well not quite a jet, but our pair of wings :biggerGrin:

[Matt]

Well not quite a jet, but our pair of wings :biggerGrin:

you cannot be serious... :cry:

[cantwait2]

sweet Mike...nice.

Do you fly yourself?

[pdisme]

was recently looking at the possibility of buying a Jet in the next couple of years...I'm a sniff away from my pilots licence and with a Jet it would be 100% tax deductable.

Was looking at the solo and smart

http://www.maverickjets.com/

It would be the ultimate freedom :beerchug:

Wow, the smart looks awesome; does that price include all the avionics, etc.? Nice range on it too, that is the ultimate freedom.


Well not quite a jet, but our pair of wings :biggerGrin:

Mike, I'm moving in, be there in a few days.

you cannot be serious... :cry:

:stupid:

[ChrisV10]

Well not quite a jet, but our pair of wings :biggerGrin:

Very nice helicopter! I have around 4 hours logged in helicopters and I am pretty sure I could crash one if needed!:lol2:

[ChrisV10]

Chris, what kind of plane do you pilot?

I've got a friend who's going through the six week training on the Airbus A330 right now, he loves to fly, he's going to be doing a New York to India route as one of the two co-pilots. Can't remember what he flies currently but the A330 is much larger, he said it even holds an extra 11,000 pounds of fuel in the tail plane. Love to see the fuel bill for that. :lol2:

I don't fly anything like that. Most of what I fly weighs less than the fuel in the tail section of that 330. I have time in 414/421 series Cessnas, King Air 90/200, Caravan, and most the little piston prop jobs.

[pdisme]

Very nice helicopter! I have around 4 hours logged in helicopters and I am pretty sure I could crash one if needed!:lol2:

I bet I could make it leave the ground; although how it would become reacquainted with the ground is where the trouble lies.

[cantwait2]

Wow, the smart looks awesome; does that price include all the avionics, etc.? Nice range on it too, that is the ultimate freedom.


As far as I'm aware yes...I have sent them a request for all the details.
The way I see it, 899K for a jet (cirtified) is pretty sweet.

I was thinking of using it for personal and business (would be a great right off for all you personal travel) and then maybe running a air taxi service on the side just to cover some of the costs.

The smart would be the most economical but the solo goes to a maximum cruise speed of mach 0.82:headbang: :headbang:

[Mike S]

sweet Mike...nice.

Do you fly yourself?

Unforunately not, I'm still going for the license sometime in the future :lol2:

[Mikey]

:roi:

The red guy is Mike S incase you missed what I was getting at...

Mike is prob someone super famous... wonder who :D

[Antonio.]

They rediculously mark up stuff for jets. I was quoted 400k to redo the leather on the seats of a G2. I almost passed out. I took the seats apart and did the work at the place I do my interiors for my cars LoL. People are nuts.

You have to be kidding me thats totally ludacris I would have to smack them in the face with that quote.

[pdisme]

You have to be kidding me thats totally ludacris I would have to smack them in the face with that quote.

Antonio, welcome to the board! :beerchug:

[AgentTripleX]

I hate flying, but after last night, I think I want one. My best friend's BF is a surgeon and one of his patients flies him to NYC on his personal jet. My friend and her BF were in the middle of a webcam date when I stopped by her pad. He was eating lobster, getting ready for bed, on the phone, and instant messaging w/webcam. It was only him, the pilot, and the stewardess on the plane. That's a nice life.

[pdisme]

Surprised you can get that level of bandwidth on a plane to do video; maybe things have improved though, or they improve if you have enough $$ to spend on it.

[duc749r]

I hate flying, but after last night, I think I want one. My best friend's BF is a surgeon and one of his patients flies him to NYC on his personal jet. My friend and her BF were in the middle of a webcam date when I stopped by her pad. He was eating lobster, getting ready for bed, on the phone, and instant messaging w/webcam. It was only him, the pilot, and the stewardess on the plane. That's a nice life.

Sounds like my brother when he flies with his GFs family, must be nice... someday

[pdisme]

I've got a friend who flies for a PGA tour golfer; he says it does look like the passengers are enjoying themselves more than him. :lol2:

[ErikV10]

I thought you can't have any wireless signals when flying. Wouldn't that interfere with communication between the pilot and the airport? Oh well, nothing is impossible anymore.

[Infamous]

I fly private all the time and never once do I turn my phone off. Thats total bullshit they feed you. My father is actually looking at buying one of these jets now. He just got a G4 too .. Dont know why he wants this. Guess cause its brand new.

[pdisme]

I think the wireless ban is voluntary by public carriers, not mandated by the FAA; I don't believe they've ever found a correlation between problems and wireless signals but just ask you to turn them off for caution. One big carrier, possibly United, did have in-flight internet but they dropped it because Boeing wasn't making any money on it and scrapped the program.

[PhxDiablo]

After my recent trip to Chicago on USAirways I've officially entered the market for private aviation. My last flight entailed all of the following:

1) Crying babies
2) Stupid toddler kicking the bejesus out of my seat-back
3) Someone in proximity takes their shoes off and it stinks up the entire area with foot stink.
4) Stuck on Tarmack for 1 hour
5) Plane delayed 3 hours
6) Bad movie playing
7) Filthy seats -- I've seen cleaner toilet seats.

So who here flies privately and what is typical to expect? What company do you use? I would assume fractional ownership or some membership club is the best way to go.

[Shawn]

After my recent trip to Chicago on USAirways I've officially entered the market for private aviation. My last flight entailed all of the following:

1) Crying babies
2) Stupid toddler kicking the bejesus out of my seat-back
3) Someone in proximity takes their shoes off and it stinks up the entire area with foot stink.
4) Stuck on Tarmack for 1 hour
5) Plane delayed 3 hours
6) Bad movie playing
7) Filthy seats -- I've seen cleaner toilet seats.

So who here flies privately and what is typical to expect? What company do you use? I would assume fractional ownership or some membership club is the best way to go.

Sounds like you didn't fly first class? Just upgrading to first should eliminate most of those issues and cost much less than buying a jet:lol2: .

[PhxDiablo]

Sounds like you didn't fly first class? Just upgrading to first should eliminate most of those issues and cost much less than buying a jet:lol2: .

No I didn't -- the plane was filled and AMEX Black upgrades only when space is available. First class however wouldn't have spared me the delays, the filthy seats, and the bad movie. I spent 12 hours traveling when it should have taken 4.5 hours. Time is money.

[pdisme]

I would hope it would at least clean up the seats and let you choose your movie? I don't generally fly first class, I hate flying to begin with and I'd rather than the extra couple hundred on gambling since the only time i fly is when I'm going to Vegas. :lol2: :lol2:

[Peter2]

I would assume fractional ownership or some membership club is the best way to go.

It all depends on how many hours/year you are flying. If you are flying less than 100 hours/year, your best and least expensive option is to charter a plane as needed.

[Peter2]

I don't generally fly first class,

If you where my size, you would never fly cattle class. :lol2:

[Jay]

If you where my size, you would never fly cattle class. :lol2:
LOL! Same here. I'm 6'6". Always fly 1st/Biz class.

[Matt]

LOL! Same here. I'm 6'6". Always fly 1st/Biz class.

wow, and I thought I had it rough in cattle. I'm 6'3" and its cramped.

[Jay]

After my recent trip to Chicago on USAirways I've officially entered the market for private aviation.
You could do what my brother did. He got his pilot's license and just rents a plane whenever he needs to fly somewhere for a biz or vacation trip. You only pay for time while the prop is turning and fuel.

[pdisme]

wow, and I thought I had it rough in cattle. I'm 6'3" and its cramped.

Yeah but your whole body is only 10" wide so it doesn't matter. :lol2: :lol2:

[PhxDiablo]

You could do what my brother did. He got his pilot's license and just rents a plane whenever he needs to fly somewhere for a biz or vacation trip. You only pay for time while the prop is turning and fuel.

Thats a great idea but I'm a flake. I'd forget something and crash the plane. I can't even find my wallet -- how am I gonna fly a plane? :confused:

[ErikV10]

After my recent trip to Chicago on USAirways I've officially entered the market for private aviation. My last flight entailed all of the following:

5) Plane delayed 3 hours



I heard Chicago O'hare Airport is one of the worst airports in the US having so much delays everyday.

www.marquisjet.com
Check that out. Seems to be a pretty decent company.

[Peter2]

So who here flies privately and what is typical to expect? What company do you use?

I use Jet Aviation. They have new planes with very experienced pilots. They can have the plane ready within a few hours of you booking it. I can be in the air within 10 minutes of arriving at the airport entrance gate.

[Shawn]

I use Jet Aviation. They have new planes with very experienced pilots. They can have the plane ready within a few hours of you booking it. I can be in the air within 10 minutes of arriving at the airport entrance gate.

thats sounds sweet.:headbang:

[pdisme]

I heard Chicago O'hare Airport is one of the worst airports in the US having so much delays everyday.

www.marquisjet.com
Check that out. Seems to be a pretty decent company.

Try flying through Hartsfield in Atlanta, f'ing nightmare.