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pdisme
11-10-2007, 02:33 AM
If this is true, then the Reventon's only claims to fame are a body kit and low production numbers?

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/Lamborghini-Murci%C3%A9lago/229128/

Lamborghini is rushing to unleash a monstrous, lightweight, rear-drive rocketship supercar late next year, as a last hurrah for Lamborghini’s Murcielago. Sources at Sant’Agata insist the new V12 flagship car will have even more power than the 650bhp Reventón, and will be crushingly fast in a straight line.

To be dubbed the SV, Autocar understands that the new two-wheel drive Murcielago will be at least 100kg lighter than the Murcielago LP640’s 1660kgs. Aome insiders say the weight savings could amount to as much as 130kg.

Losing the front differential and driveshafts will save Lamborghini more than 40kg alone, while lessons learned from the Gallardo Superleggera project will help for a great deal more.

The LP640’s welded-tube steel chassis is a more difficult proposition to pare down than the aluminium-bodied Gallardo, though, and most of the larger car’s body panels are already in carbon fibre. Only its roof and door panels are aluminium.

Lambo’s dieticians will show no murcie

Lamborghini sources insist the SV program has followed the Superleggera program by dividing the focus into three areas: the interior, the exterior and the mechanicals.

The body and the interior are the obvious parts to deal with first. The latter will become carbonfibre central; the inner door skins, the seat shells and the centre tunnel are all expected to be made from the stuff. The current leather-lined door panel will be replaced by one piece of die-cast carbon with a pull strap for a door handle. That will save around 2kg per door.

Lamborghini will strip out the Kenwood multimedia system but, if it follows the Superleggera program, it will happily sell it back to you as an option.

The electronic systems to raise and lower the spoiler, air intakes and front end will also go, and Lamborghini is almost certain to offer two carbonfibre rear wings – one far wider and more outrageous than the other.

Sources insist that the Murcielago SV will receive all-new forged and machined alloy rims, which will save at least 6kg per corner themselves. The saving will be bigger in the rear, because the wheels are larger.

The car will come as standard with the E-Gear transmission, both because it saves nearly 2kg and because Lamborghini is worried that life will be busy enough for SV drivers without negotiating the chromed gearshift gate of a manual transmission.

There will also be massive weight losses through replacing aluminium structural parts with magnesium (brackets, for example) and any non-stressed component will also be lightened.

Powertrain engineers to find another 30 horses

So what of the Murcielago’s glorious mill? Insiders are saying that as much as 680bhp is possible, along with 516lb ft of torque, from what may be the final iteration of a 6.5-litre V12 that can trace its heritage to the pre-Muira era at Lamborghini. Expect new, lighter exhaust internals to serve the dual purposes of cutting weight and easing back pressure.

The Murcielago’s traction control software will be heavily tweaked to cope with power being pumped exclusively through the rear wheels. The Murcielago has no skid-control systems. It will also have the fastest shift on a Lamborghini to date; shift times could drop from the current 0.4 seconds to just 0.2.

Besides the road cars, Lamborghini could also use the car for homologation for privateer teams already running in the FIA GT championship.

markr
11-10-2007, 05:32 PM
Well, there is/was suppose to be Murcielago Superleggera? Fast in a straight line?:fgay: How about putting some quick lap times too.

gday
11-10-2007, 10:24 PM
Well, there is/was suppose to be Murcielago Superleggera?I've convinced myself that the rumored Murcielago Superleggera and rumored Murcielago SV are one in the same car. The SV designation carries a good history with it and remains appropriate for use with (only) the V12 line.

-mick

markr
11-10-2007, 10:30 PM
I've convinced myself that the rumored Murcielago Superleggera and Murcielago SV are one in the same car. The SV designation carries a good history with it and remains appropriate for the V12 line.

-mick

Right, but who knows with Winklefuck at the helm. Suede, velvet, AWD, carbon fiber interiors, and shiny bits seems more his style as opposed to 2wd, lexan windows, magnesium wheels, and active differentials.

artherd
11-11-2007, 02:51 AM
I've said it before and I'll say it again; loose 1,000lbs and get comfortable going hard from the rear, and I'll consider picking it up.

And no I'm not talking about Dave's mom! ;)

pdisme
11-13-2007, 09:21 AM
I've said it before and I'll say it again; loose 1,000lbs and get comfortable going hard from the rear, and I'll consider picking it up.

And no I'm not talking about Dave's mom! ;)

There's no way they can lose 1000 pounds unless they redesign the entire car; the steel tube frame is killing it and needs to be completely replaced.

More crap:

http://www.cartoday.com/content/news/singlepage.asp?in=8818

Lambo’s lightweight won’t pull punches
For some time, Lamborghini has threatened to launch a track-ready, lightweight version of the Murcielago, and while the Superleggera badge has not been confirmed the LP640-eating figures emerging from Sant’ Agata suggest that a monster is about to break loose.

Back in March, we covered a speculative report that Lamborghini was in the process of developing a Superleggera variant of the Murcielago. In the case of the Gallardo Superleggera, Lamborghini relieved the standard car of much of its glass and bodywork, replacing them with carbon-fibre and polycarbonate to reduce the kerb weight by 100 kg.

This upcoming model will utilise a number of weight-saving technologies, as well as an uprated powerplant that will eclipse the 477 kW V12 in the Reventon.

The new car is thought to wear the ‘SV’ monicker and will be a rear-wheel driven affair that could trim between 100 and 130 kg off the 1 660 kgs of the Murcielago LP640. In addition to the weight-saving measures learned from the Gallardo Superleggera project, Lamborghini believes that it can shave more than 40 kg off the car’s weight by simply omitting the front differential and drive shafts.

The rest of the exterior weight-loss program will be more of challenge, however. Unlike the aluminum-bodied Gallardo, the LP640’s chassis (upon which the new car will be based) comprises a welded tubular steel construction that will be difficult to pare down. In addition, all of the LP640’s body panels (barring the roof and door skins) are already made of carbon-fibre.

So, in the quest for further weight reductions, Lamborghini engineers will turn their attentions to the car’s interior appointments.

Roughly 2kg per door will be saved by ditching the standard leather-lined inserts with a single die-cast carbon-fibre replacement with a pull strap instead of a door handle, reports Autocar. Similarly, the audio system will also be ripped out of the cabin and offered as an optional extra.

Favouring the E-gear transmission will also eke out another 2kg weight saving, as will the omission of the electronics that raise the nose to avoid grinding your carbon-fibre body kit into dust on the first speed bump. Autocar’s sources also suggest that the Murcielago SV will receive all-new forged and machined alloy rims, which will save at least 6kg per wheel.

The new car’s engine is also expected to receive a number of tweaks that could bring the 6.5-litre V12’s output to as much as 507 kW and nearly 700 N.m of torque. If these figures are to be believed, this lightweight road-going rocket could potentially crack 350 km/h.

At the launch of the Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera, company president Stephan Winkelmann pointed out that Lamborghini, much like its stable mate company Audi, is committed to releasing a new vehicle or derivative model to market every year. So, it seems logical that the company would want to produce a model with a greater output and longer production run than the Radical Reventon.

At present there is no word as to when this car will be released, but there has been talk of an unveiling at the Geneva Show in March.

markr
11-13-2007, 09:33 AM
There's no way they can lose 1000 pounds unless they redesign the entire car; the steel tube frame is killing it and needs to be completely replaced.

. . . or they start with an RGT and work backwards to "just" make it street legal which would not be liveable as a daily driver which means that's not an option. That is the only way the current chasis will EVER lose 1000lbs.

pdisme
11-13-2007, 10:33 AM
Never say never, the Diablo GTR came to be, not sure if they have the cojones to do a new track car anymore though, it would be nice to see.

markr
11-13-2007, 10:48 AM
Never say never, the Diablo GTR came to be, not sure if they have the cojones to do a new track car anymore though, it would be nice to see.

Very true. But the problem is we'll never see it on these shores because of asinine airbag and crash laws. Hell, GTR? We did even get the Diablo GT.:banghead:

pdisme
11-13-2007, 11:11 AM
Roy has one. :)

zzzzdoc
11-26-2007, 05:09 PM
Yeah, but he's Roy.

:roi:

pdisme
11-26-2007, 06:55 PM
I hate Roy. :lol2:

markr
11-26-2007, 06:58 PM
I hate Roy. :lol2:

Me too :fu: